Here Here, Rebirth!!
I couldn't agree more!
We need to do our part to feed information to any JW who will listen...
I find movies are a great tool. The Matirx comes to mind... heehee!
Peace to all....
The Oracle
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Email being circulated among JWs regarding the Golden Compass
by The Oracle inthought i would share this warning email that is circulating among hundreds of jws.... -----------------------------------------------------------------.
just wanted to inform you all of a children's movie that is coming out in december, during the christmas season, which is entitled "the golden compass".
the film stars nicole kidman and is based on the first of a trilogy of books for children called "his dark materials" written by phillip pullman of england .
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Email being circulated among JWs regarding the Golden Compass
by The Oracle inthought i would share this warning email that is circulating among hundreds of jws.... -----------------------------------------------------------------.
just wanted to inform you all of a children's movie that is coming out in december, during the christmas season, which is entitled "the golden compass".
the film stars nicole kidman and is based on the first of a trilogy of books for children called "his dark materials" written by phillip pullman of england .
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That's true Purps. Very Nazi like. Very cultish.
Alpha, he sounds like an interesting character. Thanks for the insights.
The Oracle
PS: I now need to go begin crafting my email promoting the film in the JW community as one that is in complete harmony with our message regarding religion being a snare and a racket, and the fact that it will be destroyed (ala kindgdom news number 37 or whatever). It will create some quality confusion among the rank and file.
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Email being circulated among JWs regarding the Golden Compass
by The Oracle inthought i would share this warning email that is circulating among hundreds of jws.... -----------------------------------------------------------------.
just wanted to inform you all of a children's movie that is coming out in december, during the christmas season, which is entitled "the golden compass".
the film stars nicole kidman and is based on the first of a trilogy of books for children called "his dark materials" written by phillip pullman of england .
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I don't know much about him myself but here is a link with some info
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Email being circulated among JWs regarding the Golden Compass
by The Oracle inthought i would share this warning email that is circulating among hundreds of jws.... -----------------------------------------------------------------.
just wanted to inform you all of a children's movie that is coming out in december, during the christmas season, which is entitled "the golden compass".
the film stars nicole kidman and is based on the first of a trilogy of books for children called "his dark materials" written by phillip pullman of england .
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Very interesting Alpha,
Needless to say I'll be at the advance screening...
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Email being circulated among JWs regarding the Golden Compass
by The Oracle inthought i would share this warning email that is circulating among hundreds of jws.... -----------------------------------------------------------------.
just wanted to inform you all of a children's movie that is coming out in december, during the christmas season, which is entitled "the golden compass".
the film stars nicole kidman and is based on the first of a trilogy of books for children called "his dark materials" written by phillip pullman of england .
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Eclipse!
Your prophecy has come true!
Eclipse: 1 - Watchtower: 0
LOL!
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Email being circulated among JWs regarding the Golden Compass
by The Oracle inthought i would share this warning email that is circulating among hundreds of jws.... -----------------------------------------------------------------.
just wanted to inform you all of a children's movie that is coming out in december, during the christmas season, which is entitled "the golden compass".
the film stars nicole kidman and is based on the first of a trilogy of books for children called "his dark materials" written by phillip pullman of england .
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Thought I would share this warning email that is circulating among hundreds of JWs...
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Just wanted to inform you all of a children's movie that is coming out in December, during the Christmas season, which is entitled " The Golden Compass". The film stars Nicole Kidman and is based on the first of a trilogy of books for children called "His Dark Materials" written by Phillip Pullman of England . Phillip Pullman is a proud atheist who belongs to secular humanist societies. The movie is based on the least
offensive of the three books, and they have dumbed down the worse elements.
The concern is that unsuspecting parents will take their kids to this movie, and say "this wasn't troubling" and then buy his trilogy books where in the end the children kill God and everyone can do as they please. So basically the movie is bait for the books. In the movie God is at times called Yahweh, that was done on purpose so the movie would
seem a little milder when viewed. Phillip Pullman is hoping that
unsuspecting parents will take their children to see the movie, they will enjoy the movie, and then the children will want the books for Christmas . Writer Phillip Pullman says he wants the children to read his books and decide against God and the kingdom of heaven. Pullman also made the remark that he wants to kill God in the minds of children, and that's what his books are all about.
The movie is a watered down version of the first book, which is the least offensive of the three books. The second book of the trilogy is "The Subtle Knife", and the third book is "The Amber Spyglass". Each book gets worse and worse regarding Pullman 's hatred of God. In the trilogy, a young girl becomes enmeshed in an epic struggle against a nefarious church known as the Magisterium. Another character, an ex-nun, describes Christianity as "a very powerful and convincing mistake". Inthe last book, a boy and a girl are depicted representing Adam and Eve and they kill God.
Pullman left little doubt about his intentions when he said in a 2003interview that "My books are about killing God." Conservative Britishcolumnist Peter Hitchens labeled Pullman "The most dangerous Author in Britain " and described his as a the writer "the atheists would have been praying for, if atheist prayed".
You can google a synapsis of the The Golden Compass , you will be surprised to find that in a children's book part of the story is about castration and female circumcision. -
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Today I Witnessed to a Street Witness about Child Molestation Settlements
by flipper inhello folks, mr. flipper the pot stirrer here again.
no, not really, i was easy on the old guy.
at our post office in our home town there every day is an approximately 65 to 70 year old witness man who stands next to the post office entry door with the magazines wt & awake.
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You and I both know, an announcement of the child abuse settlements will not be forthcoming any time in the near future on a local service meeting part, right?
HAHA... normally I would agree with you....
however...IT WILL MOST ASSUREDLY BE ANNOUNCED in my congregation. I always find a way to work this kind of thing in to a talk.
I'll slide it in by saying something like this...
"As we know critical times hard to deal with are upon us. We have been warned in the past that even at district conventions we shouldn't leave are purses and wallets - as not everyone is an honest person. The same holds true with the safety of our own children. Obviously with the recent news report on NBC the other night, we know that even us Jehovah's Witnesses have a problem with child molestors in our midst. It used be that this kind of thing only happened in the Catholic. Now we are watching newscasts about child molestation with US as the feature story? Terrible isn't it? It just goes to show that we need to be cautious and not to take the safety of our children for granted. We have another reminder here, that its Brother Peabody groups turn to clean the hall tonight...yuda yuda yuda..."
The Oracle
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query letter to lit.agent--feedback needed
by rekless inwhat did dwight d. eisenhower, evelyn mandela, venus and serena williams, lou whitaker, prince, larry graham, pattie smith, teresa graves, mickey spillane, gloria naylor, margaret keane, viv nicholson, naomi campbell, the jackson five, and the wayans brothers and sisters have in common?
jehovah's witnesses raised, taught, converted, and enticed them to become "dream pushers" for the watchtower bible and tract society's social-religious regime.
while this chronicle is not about any of the above celebrities, it probes the doctrines, which lure the talented, and educated as well as the ignorant and uneducated of all occupations and skills into a fantasy dream world with only three ways out.
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minor feedback -
you forgot to add George Benson.
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Jehovahs Witnesses ~Think about who you are in Subjection to.
by purplesofa ini think we need to remember that when we were witnesses we were part of something bigger than anything else on this planet.
gods government that would soon rule over this globe, and that we were his chosen ones!!!!
the elders were to be our future leaders!
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Yes, a beautiful rant indeed Purple! I wouldn't even call it a rant really. I'd call it more like throwing a life-saver to a drowning child.
And nooboo...darn I forget your name already....koooboo...or something like that ....at any rate YOU ARE SO RIGHT!
Obviously God had nothing to do with anything the WT has EVER WRITTEN...period!
No sane person, who completes an honest evaluation of what has been written by the WT could ever conclude anything otherwise!!
(now THAT is a rant, purps )
Peace to all,
The Oracle
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JW's, ordainment, mandatory reporting, and culpability....
by avishai induring the vietnam war, the jw's were insistent on stating that pioneers were "clergy" and i don't think they've ever revised that.
now, many states have included "clergy" as mandatory reporters in cases of child abuse, so in the case of jw's, culpability for non-reporting would apply to pioneers (and possibly publishers) as well as elders.
interesting, no?.
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Here is the latest from the WT regarding ordained ministers...
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w0011/15pp.17-19WhoAreGod’sMinistersToday?***Ordination
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As to when and by whom a person is ordained, consider the example of Jesus Christ. He did not have a certificate of ordination or a degree from some seminary to prove that he was a minister, and he was not ordained by any man. Why can we say, then, that he was a minister? Because Isaiah’s inspired words were fulfilled in him: "Jehovah’s spirit is upon me, because he anointed me to declare good news." (Luke 4:17-19; Isaiah 61:1) Those words leave no doubt that Jesus was commissioned to tell forth good news. By whom? Since Jehovah’s spirit anointed him for the work, Jesus was clearly ordained by Jehovah God. When did this happen? Jehovah’s spirit actually came upon Jesus when he was baptized. (Luke 3:21, 22) Therefore, it was at his baptism that he was ordained.
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What of Jesus’ first-century followers? Their status as ministers also came from Jehovah. Paul said: "Our being adequately qualified issues from God, who has indeed adequately qualified us to be ministers of a new covenant." (2 Corinthians 3:5, 6) How does Jehovah qualify his worshipers to be ministers? Consider the example of Timothy, whom Paul called "God’s minister in the good news about the Christ."—1 Thessalonians 3:2.11
The following words addressed to Timothy help us to understand how he became a minister: "You, however, continue in the things that you learned and were persuaded to believe, knowing from what persons you learned them and that from infancy you have known the holy writings, which are able to make you wise for salvation through the faith in connection with Christ Jesus." (2 Timothy 3:14, 15) The foundation of Timothy’s faith, which would move him to make a public declaration, was knowledge of the Scriptures. Was personal reading all that was needed for this? No. Timothy needed help to gain accurate knowledge and spiritual understanding of what he read. (Colossians 1:9) Thus Timothy was "persuaded to believe." Since he had known the Scriptures "from infancy," his first instructors must have been his mother and grandmother, his father evidently not being a believer.—2 Timothy 1:5.
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However, more was involved in Timothy’s becoming a minister. For one thing, his faith was strengthened by association with Christians in nearby congregations. How do we know? Because when Paul first met Timothy, the young man was "well reported on by the brothers in Lystra and Iconium." (Acts 16:2) Additionally, in those days certain brothers wrote letters to the congregations in order to strengthen them. And overseers visited them in order to build them up. Such provisions helped Christians like Timothy to progress spiritually.—Acts 15:22-32; 1 Peter 1:1.13
In view of Jesus’ command recorded at Matthew 28:19, 20, we can be sure that at some point Timothy’s faith moved him to imitate Jesus and be baptized. (Matthew 3:15-17; Hebrews 10:5-9) This was a symbol of Timothy’s whole-souled dedication to God. At his baptism Timothy became a minister. From then on, his life, his strength, and everything he had belonged to God. This was an integral part of his worship, "a sacred service." However, Timothy did not then rest on his laurels. He continued to grow spiritually, becoming a mature Christian minister. This occurred because of Timothy’s close association with such mature Christians as Paul, his own personal study, and his zealous preaching activity.—1 Timothy 4:14; 2 Timothy 2:2; Hebrews 6:1.
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Today, ordination for the Christian ministry is similar. One who is "rightly disposed for everlasting life" is helped to learn about God and his purposes by means of a Bible study. (Acts 13:48) The individual learns to apply Bible principles in his life and to pray meaningfully to God. (Psalm 1:1-3; Proverbs 2:1-9; 1 Thessalonians 5:17, 18) He associates with other believers and takes advantage of provisions and arrangements made by "the faithful and discreet slave." (Matthew 24:45-47; Proverbs 13:20; Hebrews 10:23-25) Thus he makes progress in a structured process of education.15
Eventually, the Bible student, having developed a love of Jehovah God and a strong faith in the ransom sacrifice, wishes to dedicate himself completely to his heavenly Father. (John 14:1) He makes that dedication in personal prayer and then gets baptized as a public symbol of that private act. His baptism is his ordination ceremony because that is when he is recognized as a fully dedicated servant, a di·a´ko·nos, of God. He must remain separate from the world. (John 17:16; James 4:4) He has presented his whole self "a sacrifice living, holy, acceptable to God" without reserve or condition. (Romans 12:1) He is God’s minister, imitating Christ.